Motions Proposed Regarding EDA Responsibilities Will Strip EDA's of Local Autonomy
I've just now started going through some of the motions being proposed for the BGM. I started with those motions pertaining to "Regional Organizing and EDA's", and I am extremely troubled by a series of motions which have been brought forward under the sponsorship of many involved with the central governance of our party. I'll refer to these as the "Benmurgi Motions" because Ralph Benmurgi's name appears alphabetically first on the sponsor list.
Specifically, these motions are: G10-c14 through G10-C23.
Together, they will considerably shift the power balance structure of our grassroots party, away from local volunteer-driven Electoral District Associations, and tilt it considerably in favour of the Central Party. If you are concerned about the autonomy of local EDA's, you need to pay attention to these motions, and help ensure their defeat.
I've blogged extensively about these motions on my own blogsite. You can read my blogpost, "Local EDA Autonomy Under Fire at Green Party BGM: Reviewing the "Benmurgi" Motions Pertaining to Proposed New EDA Responsibilities". The vagueness of the wording in these motions creates a lot of ambiguity, and leaves considerable room for interpretation with regards to what compliance with these responsibilities really means. Given that the consequences for non-compliance are potentially the with-holding of funds under the Revenue Sharing Agreement, or the de-registration of an EDA, the one who gets to make the final intrepretation will hold all of the power over EDA's.
I understand that there have been some issues in our Party with "rogue" EDA's. I do not support rogues, and I have little time for EDA's which haven't held AGM's in years, for example. Nevertheless, the way of addressing these specific situations should not place such a significant burden on the rest of us who are mostly good players, trying to do our best for the Party. There is often going to be friction between the Central Party and its EDA's, and that is true in any Party. In our Party, due to our structure, there has been a bit of a more balanced power structure in place, due to our "grassroots" nature. The Benmurgi Motions will change all of that.
When reviewing these motions, keep in mind that the power to with-hold funding or disband EDA's will not likely be the first step exercised by the Central Party over a non-compliant EDA, but the fact is the Benmurgi Motions will create the opportunity for the Central Party to do so, whether or not it intends to use that power. Some believe that power corrupts. Certainly these motions create the opportunities for the Central Party to use the stick of de-registration as fearful poke in the eye of non-compliant, and "problematic" EDA's.
I see these motions as the continuation of the erosion of the autonomy of EDA's. Friends that I have in other parties describe their EDA structures as being "good little clones" of one another, with little authority to make local decisions. They are the piper leading the band locally, but all of the tunes are called by their central parties. That's why they don't describe themselves as "grassroots" in the same way that we in the Green Party do. Yet the Benmurgi motions will jeopardize all of that.
I'm a firm believer in having a healthy relationship between EDA's and the Central Party, and I believe that some EDA's should be doing more to promote that relationship (likely I include my own here). There is a need to keep the Central Party informed of what's going on locally. It should not be too difficult to provide the names and email addresses of CEO's and Financial Agents, or the minutes of a General Meeting, or a copy of a Constitution. These are best practices, and they should be cultivated. They help build strong and successful relationships.
Lording de-registration over a non-compliant EDA, however, goes too far.
We need to defeat the Benmurgi motions.
Looking forward to considerable lively discussion in Toronto.
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We need to pass these motions.
We are a grassroots party. We strive to engage all our members in policy development, governance and nearly all other areas of our party.
These motions do not consolidate power they ensure that members (not EDA executives) control this party. We can stick our heads in the sand and pretend that EDA executives (or perhaps more accurately, EDA executive members) never act in away that hurts the party or is undemocratic but this is simply not the case.
This party needs a standards for compliance and democratic control and EDAs should have to meet those standards. These motions are designed to make EDAs accountable not just to the central party but much more so to the members in their riding.
I know first hand how an undemocratic EDA executive can hurt a riding. My riding is still trying to recover.
So again, we need to pass these motions.
EDA Accountabilty is a good thing, but these motions go too far
Dave, I have to agree with you that EDA accountability is a good thing. I've heard a few horror stories in my time about some of the EDA's in this Party and what they've been doing (or more often, what they haven't been doing) to advance the interests of the Party. A degree of professionalism is needed. However, by and large I suspect that most EDA's are well-run, or, I should say, well-run for the number of volunteers who are actively engaged in EDA management. I believe that most EDA Executives, like most Federal Councillors, are doing the best job that they can, on their limited personal time and limited budget.
My issue, though, is that the "Benmurgi Motions" go too far, although it may be more of a case of their vagueness in some instances. Have you read these motions, Dave? Do you not see that all EDA's will be required to adopt the Party's Template Constitution (G10-c16), even if they already have a Constitution in place? The language here does not differentiate between those EDA's with Constitutions and those without. ALL will be required.
And the same motion will lead to the Party approving amendments to local constitutions, which is just absurd. Here's the text of G10-c16:
BE IT RESOLVED that riding associations will adopt a basic constitution provided by the party and that upon approval by the Party this constitution may be amended by riding associations to adapt to local situations.
How absurd is that? First, despite there being no such thing as a "riding association", what is the mechanism which we are going to use to have the Party approve local constitutional amendments? Did the authors of this motion really mean Federal Council is going to approve? Well, that's not what they've said. Many of the other "Benmurgi Motions" have been devised with this level of consideration.
Taken together, motions G10-c14 through G10-c23 will greatly shift power away from EDA's, which are the primary interface of our grassroots membership, and give the Central Party too much control and authority over these volunteer-dependent units of the Party. This does not mean that it should be open season for EDA's to whatever they want. Building a strong party is, afterall, about partnerships. But I don't see a lot of partnership building in these lopsided motions. Nor, to my recollection, were EDA's asked for their input on these motions.
For those members who are living under the thumb of an "undemocratic" EDA, there are some things which members can do. Talk to Provincial Reps on Federal Council. Ask for Council to intervene, maybe have one of the party's organizers have a discussion with the Exec. Or, maybe stronger action is necessary through the Ombuds process, potentially leading to expulsion of members who are not operating in the best interests of the Party.
That being said, motion G10-c14, which sets out that Electoral District Associations must hold Annual General Meetings at least once every 15 months is one of the few "Benmurgi Motions" I do support. G10-c15 is the other; it says that the Party (whoever that is) shall provide candidate nomination rules to all "riding associations", which I think is a good thing (because this motion alone doesn't say that the EDA's have to follow those rules).
Sorry. I can be an advocate for a motion which requires our EDA to rescind its Constitution and replace it with another Constitution provided by the Central Party, and then does not let us amend it without someone else's approval. That doesn't work for Sudbury, in my opinion, and I don't think that it will work for most EDA's throughout Canada.
Just because there are a few bad apples doesn't mean that you've got to spray the whole barrel with pesticides.
"Sudbury" Steve May
These motions don't go too
These motions don't go too far. EDA autonomy is not important for us to be a grassroots party. We are a grassroots party because we empower ALL our members to make decisions that effect the way we operate not just those on EDA executives.
These motions establish a nice and understandable standard that EDAs must meet as well as the consequences for not meeting those standards. Not only do they ensure that the "primary grassroots interface of our members" must meet a basic democratic standard but they make it easier for members who have moved to a new riding reengage with party at the local level.
Steve, what is in the Sudbury constitution that a) needs to be there and b) would not be in a standard charter?
What is so wrong with having a common constitution where issues can be addresses across the board and best practices shared between all ridings?
The members of our party gain more local stability and fairness. These motions need to succeed.
Avoiding Specifics Again, eh?
Well, Dave, again it looks like you're refusing to engage in a conversation on the specifics in these motions. I write about my specific concerns, and you offer generalizations. I'm getting tired of asking you why you think the specifics of these motions are good for the Party. I've laid it all out there.
And now you ask me a question in which you want me to identify even more specifics. Fine.
We in Sudbury adopted the "template" Constitution recommended by our Organizer back in 2008, when it became apparent that either the previous Executive hadn't adopted a Constitution or they did so with the name of a different EDA in the title (likely it was that).
In March of 2009, the Central Party told EDA's to follow the Rules for Candidate Nomination processes, and to have a Candidate in place by the middle of June. Our template Constitution required us to follow the rules and processes set out by the Central Party for nominating candidates. Whether we felt that the timeline was appropriate or not, we were bound to follow those rules, and so we did.
The Rules, though, were extremely problematic with their lack of flexibility in terms of timelines. Further, the rules indicated that potential candidiates would have to apply to Campaign Committee to be pre-screened, and that Campaign Committee would then notifiy the EDA whether there were any acceptable applicants. We had a real problem with the "star chamber" quality to these rules, but we didn't have a choice but to follow them.
The Rules also limited voting for our candidate to only those members in good standing, which was in contravention to the Party's own Constitution. The application of these rules which we were required to follow led to the direct resignation of a very key member of our EDA Exec. Other members also began to lose interest.
We nominated an excellent candidate before the end of June, 2009, and watched on with horror for the next several months to find that so very few of the EDA's out there were following suit.
Based on our experience with handling these Rules for candidate nomination, the members of Sudbury voted to amend our Constitution to remove the requirement that we follow the Party's rules for candidate nomination processes. In its place, we included an article which indicates that we will develop our own processes, which will be handled by a Nomination Committee. And that's the kind of local autonomy that I would be reluctant to give up.
Further, we have a fairly large EDA Executive. It's a new one, now, as we just held our AGM a few weeks ago. All of the positions occupied on the Executive are outlined in our Constitution. We still have a few vacancies which can be filled should anyone else step forward who wants to become involved (and I suspect that there will be some).
Our Exec positions, as established in our Constitution, act as Chairs of Committees which may or may not be active at any given time. Further, some of the positions are unique for our circumstance. For example, we have an Elections Readiness Chair, as well as an EDA Liason Chair. Also, we allow the Young Greens Association in Sudbury to appoint a member to our Executive, which is, I believe, an extrordinary power for the Young Greens to have, but one which shows how serious we are about the voice of youth in our community.
If we have to rescind our Constitution and adopt a basic model supplied by the Party, we will likely have to have some of our current Exec members step down from their positions, due to numbers, and also because it's doubtful that a "template" would list the same sorts of positions which we've created here, and which work for us as an organization.
And all of that goes to the notion that the best level of governance to decide on local structures is really the local level. What works here in Sudbury may not work in Trinity-Spadina or the Yukon. But it works here in Sudbury. Why tamper with something which is working well?
So, Dave, those are the specific provisions that I can think of off of the top of my head which I would be reluctant to give up in Sudbury's Constitution. And that's one of the reasons that I'm opposed to these motions - but it's not the only one. This isn't just about us holding onto our Constitution. It's about local autonomy, and having local people on the ground build the sorts of organizations which they want, and which they can make florish. It's about receiving the buy-in of local members, because if they know that they can influence the structure and direction of an organization, they're far more apt to be committed to it than if it is something which is thrust upon them from some outside force.
Again, I agree that there needs to be responsibility and accountability, but these motions go too far. They create a process where one unit of the Party can dictate to another unit, and if the first unit doesn't like what the second is doing, they'll have the authority to withhold funds or de-register. And that sort of process is ripe for abuse.
So, Dave, I'll ask you once more: do you wish to tell me why you think these specific motions are good for fostering local democracy, for contributing to the grassroots nature of the Party? I think that maybe one or two of the motions, on their own, are probably ok. I think that the one which requires an EDA to hold an AGM every 15 months is appropriate. But most of the others go too far, and taken together with the two "punishment" motions which could impose withholding RSA funds and de-registration, well that's just too much. Indeed, even the AGM every 15 months motion is problematic, should and EDA find itself in the 15th month of its mandate and not having held an AGM, and a federal election gets called! There wouldn't be any flexibility for an EDA to postpone the AGM.
If we're going to create these sorts of requirements, we need to put some good thought into things. I don't believe that there was a lot of good thought put into the Benmurgi motions. Sure, the intentions might have been great, but the wording is terrible, and the repercussions are unacceptable.
What we need to do is establish an amicable process involving EDA's and the Central Party to develop mutually acceptable processes. That hasn't happened here.
"Sudbury" Steve May
Steve the main sticking point
Steve the main sticking point you seem to have is that it would be a bad thing if EDAs used a template constitution. I disagreed.
You say the two consequence resolutions go to far. I think they go just far enough.
In terms of General Meetings we seem to agree (although setting requirements without consequences sounds somewhat like a waste of time).
The party should be providing rules for nominated candidates I think EDAs should be nominating candidates in a consistent manner. We are a political party not just a semi-independent collection of EDAs. I think having open and fair rules that are consistent across the country will result in more rigorous nominations and ultimately better candidates come the next general election.
The one about the party knowing who the EDA CEO and FA are is a no-brainer, how can you be against a motion that says EDAs need to let the party know who the CEO and FA are?
The holding of assets resolution just makes sense. If the EDA is de-registered the party holds it's assets for up to 3 years in hopes that a new EDA is formed. Seems like a good way not to lose track of assets and I think 3 years is a very reasonable window for forming a new EDA.
Do you really have a problem with the central party having a copy of EDA constitutions? Doesn't that simply make sense? Lets say a member has a problem with their exec and they go to the central party looking for help. Lets say that its an issue regarding the interpretation of the EDA's constitution. In this instance wouldn't the central party having a copy of the EDA constitution help move things along? Also many EDAs post their constitutions on their websites so this isn't really a big deal.
Seriously at this point I'm wondering if you read all the motions, your complaints seem to deal only with a few of them.
You can't possible be against the one requiring EDA officers to be members of the party? You just can't be, I'm sorry I don't believe it.
The next one is about financial info. Technically the FC can already ask an EDA for this but this would make it an explicit policy for EDAs. Quite frankly this one is important. Lets say I think that my exec is miss spending money but when I ask about it they ignore me. The next thing I do is ask my regional rep on FC. They take it up with the FC and in order to address my complaint they ask the EDA for the financial records. This resolution keeps EDAs honest (before you write three pages about how I called you and everyone working on EDAs a liar let me be clear I'm not saying EDAs are currently operating dishonestly), it's quite reasonable. I just don't see the problem.
Some structure would be
Some structure would be helpful, being grass roots does not mean we are a multi headed Hydra, it means that ideas from the roots of the party make it up to the leadership and that those ideas inform and alter the party as a whole. In fact I would suggest that the current system is actually broken, I have spoken to many people who have voted Green and I have asked them about some of our more activist policies without relating them to the party and by and large they do not support them, in fact the only people I have ever come across that think some of our more radical stuff is a good idea are people I meet at mixers, or at the EDA level or that come out to volunteer. This is not all that surprising as the most passionate are often the ones giving their time, however they should not be allowed to operate in a vacuum, we need to understand what "Joe Green" voter is thinking and wanting, thats the guy who has chosen a more fuel efficient car, recycles, buys local food when possible, flies to the cuba for vacation, is worried about the Economy and Afghanistan, Is not sure if he will have a pension when he retires, wants his kids education to mean something and quality healthcare when he gets sick, It's these "Soft Greens" that we have to speak to and lure from other parties, or the undecided/not voting crowd, if we want to get ahead and they are not being heard from right now.
Policies are one thing, sure, but this isn't about policy
Ron, your comments are interesting. I know that there are many in our Party who are concerned about our policies and whether they are sale-able to mainstream voters. I'm certainly one of them.
But, the motions being discussed here aren't about policies. They're about removing local decision making authority and replacing it with centralized decision making.
I don't believe that the Party is a "multi-headed hydra", nor is that something we should aspire to. I do understand that some EDA's have caused issues for members, sometimes significant ones. And I've heard stories about EDA's not doing some of the basic democratic activities which you'd expect them to do, such as holding Annual General Meetings and the opportunity to elect executives, including CEO's and Financial Agents. If those are problems we're having as a Party, we should be addressing those problems.
But the way to address these problems isn't to strip EDA's of local decision making authority. Decisions start with local Constitutions, which set out how the EDA will conduct its business. Constitutions are adopted by local members, and altered by local members. Should these motions come to pass, all EDA's will have to rescind their constitutions and adopt a "basic" Constitution provided by the Central Party. If they want to amend their Constitution, it won't be up to the local members any more: it will be the approval of the Party which is required. It's this kind of autonomy which is under attack.
Again, this isn't about our policies. It's about our grassroots structure.
"Sudbury" Steve May
It's about accountability
I don't think this "Strips EDA's of Local decision making authority" in any meaningful way, or if it does its in areas that just make sense(accounability, policy, governance). I don't think think EDA's should be able to just willy nilly make big decisions on their own, as they could be in conflict with the whole and that just gets confusing for us and the voters. Which date you have your meeting, what kind of fundraisers you do, or even what you say to the public(as long as it does not deviate from platform) will all be still under local control, don't let the libertarian in you get out of control, without a central playbook that we all follow within, our message will be unclear both to our supporters and the electorate.
I would give this comment 100
I would give this comment 100 points but unfortunately I'm only able to give it one.
2 out of 3 ain't right
Ron, I appreciate your comments, but you're wrong on at least two counts here:
1) Dates for meetings. Yes, regular meetings of the EDA will still be determined locally, but two of the bigger sorts of meetings EDA's currently call on their own initiatives will now be mandated by the Central Party: an AGM will have to occur within a certain timeframe, which may or may not make sense locally; and, a candidate nomination meeting will be called on the Central Party's schedule, not before, not after (at least if an EDA wants to maintain compliance and not miss out on their RSA transfer or risk being deregistered).
2) Fundraisers. While local decision-making will still allow fundraisers to happen, should these motions pass, there may be an audit process which EDAs will have to undergo at the request of Central Party. No one knows what that might look like -- whether really detailed or not, or even if it will happen at all. But the motions change the playing field. Currently, EDAs are accountable to themselves for funds raised, and to Elections Canada with regards to yearly filing. Should these motions pass, in the future the Central Party might also get involved, requesting information pertaining to funds raised locally and which stay in local coffers.
With regards to local candidates not deviating from the national platform, these motions don't address that issue, and as far as I can tell, there is no process in place to remove a candidate who does in fact deviate from the Green Party's platform.
Anyway, the Benmurgi motions are not about delivering a message. They're about structure and reporting, with-holding funds and de-registration. Not about the way in which policy or messaging is conveyed at all. Maybe you should take a look at what these motions actually seek to do.
"Sudbury" Steve May
3 out of 3 in my mind...
Actually I did read the motions, and while I was commenting on them specifically I was also commenting on GPC structure or lack thereof in general. As far as the central party mandating timeframes for AGM’s and Candidate Nominations, I did not miss them I consider them substantive benchmarks in the life of an EDA and the consequences for failure in this regard can result in being deregistered or failing to have an acceptable candidate in time to prepare for the election (luxury not seen lately), and detrimental to the party as a whole. I think the number of deregistered associations and the lazy manner many EDA’s seek out their candidates underscores the need for central control on this issue.
With regards to fundraising, once again I am cognizant of the implications of the central party looking into the books of the EDA, but I welcome it fully, as the CEO of Simcoe Grey, I have a lot of responsibility on my shoulders, not the least of which is financial, the more professional we are, the more process driven we are in these administrative areas the more time and energy we will have for the truly important “Grass Roots” activities of raising our profile, getting new members, finding great candidates, and transmitting insights and issues from the base to the central party and back the other way.
I manage large institutional buildings for a living, and I have been involved in organizations and sat on boards from my sons daycare to the Rotary Club, and the Chamber of commerce to name a few and held all sorts of positions and what I see time and again is great structure engenders success. I am by no means an “A” type personality or a control freak like our PM and in fact tend to lean the other way by inclination, but facts is facts the better organized you are the better you do. Earnest good will only takes you so far after that it’s all organization and hard work.
I am still looking for our PLAN……!
Forced Compliance won't lead to Healthy Circumstances
Ron, I don't disagree that all of the things you've stated are best practices, and EDA's should be working towards doing those things: holding AGM's in a timely manner, being accountable financially, recruiting and holding good candidate nomination meetings. My point, though, is that forced compliance under threat of with-holding funding and/or deregistration isn't the way to go on this.
Why not have the Central Party work with EDA's to build capacity? Why not a gentle nudge, if necessary, rather than a threat?
This isn't the way to build better relationships between EDA's and the Central Party. Like any relationship where the power is tilted completely towards one party and where there is no requirement for responsible use of that power, the relationship won't ever be a healthy one.
"Sudbury" Steve May