An Elephant in the Room?

I'm posting this with a certain amount of trepidation. I'm hesitant about airing potential laundry in public but, from what I've been seeing, it's already out on the clothesline. I'm talking about the Young Greens of Canada's new slogan: "Your parents f*cked up the planet."

The blogosphere isn't completely exploding over this but there is certainly some commentary out there and much of it is, predictably, negative.

Mark Kersten posted a point by point criticism of the slogan:

"Updated: Young Greens Slogan: “Your Parents F*cked Up the Planet” – An Unnecessary Conversation Ender"

Mark took issue with the slogan on its abrasiveness, its divisiveness, its unfairness and its counterproductiveness.

Chris Rapson, co-chair of the Young Greens, responded to Mark's criticism. Several more people, including me, commented, as well. I'm recapping some of my own comment here but I encourage readers to go to Kersten's Kolumn and read and/or participate.

Camille Labchuk also blogged on the YGC's new website and slogan:

"Young Greens website makes waves"

Dave Bagler posted two items:

"Angry Conservative Tools"

"Real Outrage"

Saskatchewan rightwing blog Small Dead Animals garnered over 80 vitriolic comments:

Elizabeth May Is F*cking Up Your Kid

My Google News Alert for "Elizabeth May" delivered up this one from Thunder Bay:

Green Leader Leader Elizabeth May F*cks Up

So, did the YGC f*ck up? Elizabeth? The Official Agent for the Green Party of Canada? Anyone?

As I said in my comment at Mark Kersten's blog, I find the slogan to be quite divisive. I'm a grumpy old fart, though, so maybe I'm off base. I came here to the main GPC blogs thinking there would likely be some discussion of this issue but there wasn't so I'm attempting to see what others think.

My biggest problems with the slogan are the divisiveness and the generalized blame of an entire demographic. Even though I am mildly offended by the colourful language, I accept that as edgy and apparently attractive to youth. No big deal. It's the message that bothers me.

The reference to the elephant in the room applies not just to the lack of discussion here on the main party blogs. The newly redesigned GPC site (kudos for new look, btw) has no link to the new YGC site. At least, none that I can find. I could be mistaken but I think the old site included some prominent links to the Young Greens' site.

There's already a clear attempt to use the new YGC slogan against Elizabeth May. The fact that the YGC site carries the endorsement of the Official Agent for the GPC legitimizes this criticism, whether Elizabeth had anything to do with the slogan or not. The Thunder Bay piece and several of the Small Dead commenters actually blame Elizabeth herself for dreaming up the slogan.

We're all wearing the slogan and I, for one, am uncomfortable with it.

There's no denying that every generation since the beginning of the industrial age has contributed to the demise of the planet. My parents' generation invented nuclear warfare. My grandparents' generation invented coal-fired electricity generation and the automobile. My own generation is hardly blameless, either.

Yet, each generation has had its bright spots. My generation founded the Green Party of Canada and Greenpeace. We invented eco-activism and we mobilized by the hundreds of thousands to stop the Vietnam War. Many of us embraced green living and green politics. Many of us have built our entire lives around progressive, earth-friendly values.

Previous generations founded the Sierra Club, National Geographic Society, Audubon Society and a host of other green and progressive organizations.

Pitting youth against their parents (or their parents' entire generation) may be one way of attracting attention and recruiting some YGC members. I'm open to being convinced otherwise but at this point, I think it's going to bite us all in our collective asses and do far more harm than good.

In the irony department, the YGC's action item on donations carries the following advice: "ask your parents and relatives."

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Great Ad

I haven't followed the links you posted yet, but my gut reaction to the ad was positive. It's amusing and encourages youth to get involved and turn things around by living and voting Green. Most people are sophisticated enough to not expect full information, fairness and accuracy from an ad. Also, most parents are not Green voters and have not lived green, so while the divisiveness may be unfair to some, it's generally true. It emphasises a key point of how unfair it is to future generations that we have threatened their future so.

It is a positive if this ad causes controversy. The media attention will help. Of course, one expects the GPC will be able to handle any media scrutiny with good spin and a positive message to all generations.

What about other parties youth wings?

Figured I'd check the other big parties and see what their youth wings are doing for comparison...

Liberals: http://www.youngliberals.ca
Very blah - a clean page that has some plants, some green, and nothing new since June 5th.

Conservatives: http://www.cpcenergy.ca/
A very stunned looking guy on the front page, very basic, one article since August 5th - suspect it was done by the 'adults' in the party.

NDP: http://youthunited.ndp.ca/
More interesting, has its own issue listed (text message charges, oil sands, big banks, ATM fees seem to be their issues) but no dates to identify how old stuff is - smart to have headlines from the main NDP site though with dates thus giving an 'up to date' feel regardless of if it is or not.

None gave me the impression it is run by angry kids, unlike the GPC Youth site.  The Liberal site was clean, NDP had issues that kids would (most likely) jump on, while the CPC looked like what an old white guy would think kids would like.

If we are after drawing attention, we've got the site for it.  To draw kids in I suspect the NDP would get kids who are thinking of their own issues (ATM fees, text message charges) over all else, the Liberals would get the future bankers of Canada, we'd get the kids wanting to be where things are happening, and the CPC would get...er...not sure who their site would appeal to.

John Northey
Wellington-Halton Hills

No youth wing

The Conservatives don't have a recognized youth wing.  The former PC's did but that tradition did not carry on with the merger.

Mark Taylor (Cypress Hills - Grasslands)

http://ReportonGreens.blogspot.com

This statement is purely my own opinion and no way is to be mistaken for the viewpoints of the party

NDP site not well linked

Just went through the youth sites again.  Noticed that of the 5 big items highlighted on the NDP Youth site 4 lead to 404/page not found errors.

The Green Youth could use a few more links (I'd love for the f*cked up image to lead to something explaining how they came up with the slogan or why they did) but at least everything appears to work.  The Twitter feeds are a very good idea too in order to keep the page 'live'.

John Northey
Wellington-Halton Hills

Bloc Kids

Should've looked for theirs as well.  http://www.fjbq.org/

I don't read much French, but the site basically is a set of links to articles which appears fairly up-to-date.  A site that does the job but nothing more.

John Northey
Wellington-Halton Hills

Heh...

...and the CPC would get...er...not sure who their site would appeal to.


I guess my old hippie roots are showing. I'm continually surprised at the number of young people who aren't the least bit embarrassed at their conservatism -- big-C and small-c. Maybe it's a backlash against their flower children parents.

Jim Elve
The opinions expressed here are purely my own and do not represent official Green Party of Canada policy or positions.

ygc link

Not having a prominent link to youth.greenparty.ca was a simple oversight. All fixed now.

PS: love the graphic.

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Matthew Clarke
Senor Web Developer

Thanks for clarifying

Congrats on the new GPC site design, Matthew.

Jim Elve
The opinions expressed here are purely my own and do not represent official Green Party of Canada policy or positions.

thanks

It seems to be going over well!

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Matthew Clarke
Senor Web Developer

The kids are alright.

If the kids don't have fire in their belly, then we're really in trouble. They are the future and if they don't have passion, commitment, fire today, they won't have much of a future.

You want to tell them to tone it down????   Nah, I think they did a neat job of stick handling to get out a message that resonates for their generation.

Well done. Keep it up. And kudos to Elizabeth for supporting them.

 

 

They are right aren't they?

The bottom line for me is they are right! The past generations HAVE f*cked up the planet. Now on public sites and what have you we can't say that the bottom line is pretty much everybody have dropped the f-bomb a few times. I think the slogan will shock young people out of the apathy they seem to be in. I also think it should be a young person run website and organisation and leave them alone. But hey I work on oil rigs where every second word is f-this and f-that and where there is an actual piece of equipment called the f*ck stick LOL.

Everybody take a chill pill and stop overanalyzing that's what I have to say.

Awesome

I think that the Young Greens are on the right track.  Sometimes you need to smack the establishment in the head to move your point forward.  No other youth wing is willing to push the envelope. Keep up the fresh thinking.

All generations work together......

Will there be the odd few put off by our edgy message? Probably.....but the rest of us will continue to hope that we are doing a good enough job raising our kids that they can recognize not just their own mistakes, put their parents' as well. If I raise a kid.....I will most definately raise them with the attitude that I'll need their help fixing the inevitable mistakes of my generation.

Hopefully I'll get a chance to think more about this slogan for the next 3 weeks, but here is my reaction from the gut:

kay the YGC slogan is definetely a little divisive.....but the greatest, deepest most cross-generational conversations have been about how my parents generation has fucked up the planet. Talking in conversation with everyone from grandchildren to grandparents, the post war oil industrial expansion has been the 'issue of our times' that brings our genration TOGETHER, not apart. This is not about blame. It is is about seeing the problem for how big it really is, and using every generation to come out and fix it.

Will there be the odd few put off by our edgy message? Probably.....but the rest of us will continue to hope that we are doing a good enough job raising our kids that they can recognize not just their own mistakes, but their parents' as well.

If I raise a kid.....I will most definately raise them with the attitude that I'll need their help fixing the inevitable mistakes of my generation.

Good job Youth council!