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By Elizabeth May on 17 December 2009 - 3:55pm
Sarkozy and Lula are not giving up. Working the phones. Sarkozy to Obama. Is it possible?
Yes.
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...but not terribly likely
Sorry...if Clinton was there this morning repeating the 3-4% target, you can bet the decision in Washington has already been made: Obama won't be expending any political capital on this issue. There is way too much at stake for him domestically to do so. His approval rating is the lowest it's ever been, and continuing to sink fast.
The States has done what it does: offer the promise of cash as it's contribution to the cause. I guess that's better perhaps than pre-emptive military strikes against notorious greenhouse gas emitting nations (because you know who would be at the top of that list!). Not that anyone was suggesting anything like that.
Obama isn't going to save the planet tomorrow.
"Sudbury" Steve May
The Courage to Say No
From the article:
From the article: "Archbishop Tutu pronounced that it is 'better to have no deal than to have a bad deal.'"
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Tutu is once again treating serious issues without thought. Exactly why is this statement not equally apropos to the CPC view that the Canadian economy is ultimately more important than all other concern?
This is why we end up year after year of no action at all. Maybe if we got *some* movement, even if small, we could prove that it wouldn't destroy the economy, and so we could forward. Why do we have to move in large indivisible steps? Tutu's and Klein's position on this matter is reckless.
In a typical labour
In a typical labour negotiation, the owners make insulting offers and use tactics aimed at inflaming the workers to try to provoke an emotional response. The union members ‘walk-out’ of the negotiations enraged, go on strike and the corporation now is free to do whatever it wants. They’ve already stockpiled inventory and now they don’t have to pay any salaries.
A bad deal is still movement, its still a commitment in a direction. It will stimulate green-energy development and create a mind-set. You can come back in 6 months with more science showing that its not working; that we are heading for the point of no return and press for further actions. I just don’t see how walking away is going to help. The big countries can say, ‘we tried and they walked out’. Unless there’s an alternate plan.