Help me save Fuel !
By John Paul Appleman on 17 July 2007 - 6:34am
I recently caught a story on TV about Miserly Driving. I did not catch the whole story. I am definately interested in this type of driving practise. Can anyone tell me anything more? Has anyone heard about some sort of club that pratices this type of driving? I would really like to find out more.
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Miserly Driving Saves Fuel, TAKE MY CHALLENGE !!!
From what I caught on the show, I can save up to 1 liter every 100 km. I drive. I would like you all to try this out and let me know if it works for you too. I would also like to find more tricks if they are out there. Driving a Smart car we get 3L./100km using the how to save fuel below, regular driving we get 4L./100km.
I CHALLENGE YOU TO TRY THIS YOURSELF AND TELL TWO FRIENDS.
How to save fuel
There are three basic steps to fuel savings.
Plugging
Not Following to Close
Avoid The Drive-Thru
Plugging
Anytime you have your foot off the gas pedal you save fuel.
Plugging is the process of going to 5 km over the posted speed limit. Next you take your foot off the gas until you reach 5 km under the speed limit. Speed back up to 5km over . Repeat this process as often as traffic allows. Plugging will actually work regardless of the speed you are traveling. By keeping your foot off the gas you save money. If your car is an automatic increase your speed gently,no passing gear.
Not Following to Close
Try to think of using your brake as an emergency, not part of the drive. If we leave enough room between us and the car in front, there is no reason to use the brake. Ninety to ninety five percent of hwy. braking is avoidable, so give yourself room. You will actually not be any later to your destination. When approaching a red light, take your foot off the gas as soon as you see the light. At the intersection keep your foot on the brake until you are ready to move.
Avoid The Drive-Thru
The less Idling the better.
Have Fun Drive Safe!
John Paul Appleman
ADFW FGPA
Cruise, don't plug
I can't find any reference to this practise you call "plugging".
However, it seems to be some kind of urban myth or misunderstanding. This kind of slowing and accelerating you describe would be a huge fuel waster.
Every economical driving tips article I have ever read has suggested using cruise control to maintain a constant speed - because the alternative, a cycle of faster/slower, wastes fuel. Here is even a test that proved it, saving 7-14%:
http://www.edmunds.com/advice/fueleconomy/articles...
Of course, driving on hills is different - use constant foot pressure instead of constant speed (don't use cruise control). You'll slow while ascending and accelerate while descending, which is fine (within reason).
Erich Jacoby-Hawkins
Barrie, ON
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Save Fuel!
Well, I readily admit that I am not an expert or an automotive engineer, and I do not quarrel with your 3 vs 4 l/100km observations, but ...
Plugging?
I think that a consistent speed would be more fuel efficient. Accelerating is the least fuel efficient operation and "plugging" would have you accelerating an awful lot of the time.
Following too close?!
For sure, unnecessary braking will waste fuel! However, drafting behind a big truck in your Smart Car might save you fuel (although I'd be frightened to try it!)
Avoid the drive - thru!
This is a no brainer! Park the car, get out and walk, talk to the clerk. Better still, I can't think of many places I go that have a drive thru. I guess Tim's is the most popular place - but I don't go there very often. And remember to bring your own cup when you go!
Cool ideas for sure! Now if I was driving on the 401 and I came up to you "plugging", I would be inclined to accelerate like heck to get by you since I would be pretty worried about your inconsistent driving pattern, thus creating "Following too close" fuel waste in MY car. We are all connected!
Save fuel - leave your car at home!
Rob Brooks
GPC Member Hull-Aylmer
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be neutral
anticipate upcoming slow-downs/stoppages, incl. "stale" traffic lights, by consistently incorporating a distant perspective, in addition to the obvious lateral, rear & near-front ones
be both accelerator- & brake-appropriate : make good use of that underused gear, neutral, thus slowing down more quickly while rolling (also esp. for emergencies!), & if done carefully enough in viable traffic, eg slowing down in neutral coast well in advance of a red so as to minimize or eliminate braking, that much less re-acceleration is required to get up to speed again, esp. artful as you pass all those less distance-aware at a green, & economical in fuel & brake linings (although on one very old vehicle we did wear out the transmission cable); since neutral is used for very short coasting I have never seen resultant real transmission harm
now we've pretty much only ever driven very old vehicles, & that on green purpose, emissions notwithstanding (judicious use & practices, esp. re combined errands (even to the point of frequent near overload...), & most esp. about being as little part of car culture as possible, for consider as well that probably most cars in their manufacture are at least as destructive overall as in their years of use); so, driving for avg 4-5 years all the oldies we have all these years has us not care too much about tranny wear, which in any case we have almost never noticed
my physics-oriented youngest informs me of stresses involved for automatic transmissions, but even he acknowledges the artfulness of the driving style i've used (with him as precious cargo)
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Engine brake
If you want to reduce brake wear, engine braking is better than going into neutral. We live on a hill, and I use 2nd gear in our automatic when descending to reduce pressure on the brakes. I also use it for gentle engine braking in some other situations. (You don't want to overdo it in an automatic).
Notwithstanding a car culture that wants a new one every 3-5 years, we plan to own ours more like 10-12, so I do what I can to preserve major components, including transmission. Even if you do trade in, someone else will be buying your old car, so it helps the earth to preserve the transmission, etc.
You can protect your transmission in a couple of ways. One is to back into your driveway or parking spaces (or get a drive-through space). That way, when you re-start your car and the engine & transmission are cold, you don't have to shift into and out of reverse before shifting into drive. The less shifting you do with a cold tranny, the better. (Instead, you are reversing at the end of your previous trip, while everything is warmed up.)
If I am at a red light and won't be there long enough to turn off the engine, I put it in neutral. This causes less tranny wear than if you are in drive with your foot on the brake. (This applies only to automatic). If you are idling in drive, the tranny is always trying to push the engine, then backing off, then trying, then backing off, causing wear.
Turning off the engine when others would idle is very useful - I do this any time I can, even at red lights where I know it will be 10 seconds or more before I go. Not only does idling waste fuel, it is hard on your engine - incomplete combustion means more corrosive chemicals are created in the engine. You cause less wear to your engine re-starting it hot than you cause idling for 20-30 seconds. In a properly-maintained engine, most wear is caused by starting, idling, and short trips. One short trip causes more engine wear than hundreds of miles of steady highway driving.
Erich Jacoby-Hawkins
Barrie, ON
The views I express on this blog are purely my own and should not be construed to represent the official position of the Green Party of Canada - the same goes for all other people's posts & comments.
Erich Jacoby-Hawkins, Barrie ON - although I'm on Cabinet (Nat'l Rev. and Ecol. Fiscal Reform), views here are my own and may not reflect official GPC positions. Please visit www.ErichtheGreen.ca
good driving tips and challenge
The only thing I would really disagree with is the 'plugging' idea. Personally I have found traveling at a consistent speed saves me fuel. I have a large 'eco-footprint' when it comes to driving because I make my living traveling. Using the brake only when necessary also helps and I drive a safe enough distance behind so that I can first take my foot off the accelerator and let the car slow down until I need the brake. More often than not deceleration is enough in most highway traffic. I agree with not using drive-thrus and I rarely use them, but I will admit it is mostly because after hours on the road I just want to get out of the car. I drive an older car ('92 honda accord) but because of my heavy travel it is constantly tuned up and well maintained. Investing the money to keep your car regularly maintained is worth it.
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Keep your distance
I generally try to maximise the distances between me and all other vehicles going in the same direction. This allows avoidance of braking to slow and gentle acceleration. I keep my distance from vehicles in adjacent lanes too, having the option of changing lanes can help.
Mostly this strategy was begun to increase safety but it also allows for fuel efficient driving habits. I haven't owned a motor vehicle for over 20 years but do have access to a car and use it when needed.
Last month I would have agreed
I know that plugging goes against every fuel efficiency idea I had every known. That is why I felt that, because it does work, I had to share it.
Stephen, if you travel by car alot, I think you would be perfect to take this challenge. When the company moved my job 70km north, I could no longer walk to work. Every since I have been learning every possible way to save fuel.
Rob, 105 to 95km is not nearly as dramatic as you seem to think. Let me be clear. You have to be aware of the cars around you and drive accordingly. I would never advocate anything unsafe. There are times in every commute when plugging would not be appropriate. When I travel at 100km per hour in the slow lane, some drivers still need to run up on me, brake hard, and then pass as if on their way to a fire. In 500 meters of plugging you still average 100 km.
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All Apologys
I failed to acknowledge some very good saving suggestions. There have been some great points, like coasting in neutral. This will reduce consumption.
In my excitment, I may have jumped to some conclusions. Plugging may not be suitable for all types of automobiles. It does improve the fuel economy with my standard transmission. Automatics do not respond the same way. This weekend I drove a car with auto and it was hard to find a plugging pattern. I settled on using cruise control at 95km and then gently raising to 105km and then drop to 95km, back to 105km. I did not have the chance to test my consumption.
I encourage everyone with consumption type to post them here.
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Scan Gauge II
I just ordered a Scan Gauge II this will give me the actual fuel consumption per 100km reading, just like the Prius. I wiil drive a few ways to try to find the most effect technique, and keep you all posted.
Lots of variables
I am sorry, but I remain deeply skeptical of your 'plugging' driving style, for a couple of reasons:
1) it is contrary to every article I have read in the past 5 years about improving fuel economy through driving style
2) it contradicts my (admittedly rusty) understanding of physics and mechanics.
Physics: Energy used to travel increases by a square of velocity, so the time you spend driving faster than 100 km/h uses more fuel than the amount you spend driving slower than 100 km/h - averaged together, they add up to more than you would use at a constant 100 km/h. Moreso, accelerating is the main consumer of energy - once at a constant speed, you are only overcoming friction and wind resistance.
However, this is not a simple calculation, as a car moving very slowly is rather inefficient. Most engines are probably most fuel efficient somewhere in the 60-80 km/h range.
Mechanics: there seems to be an urban myth that taking your foot off the accelerator means you are using NO gas; actually, engines have a set minimum idle and even when coasting in neutral, there is some gas being injected. (If not, your engine would come to a full stop after not using the gas pedal for a while).
Now, I know that you have compared mileage on different occasions and this has indicated some savings from 'plugging'. However, such a comparison requires that ALL other variables be held constant; this includes the weight of driver and passengers, weight of luggage (including fuel), condition of road, and inflation pressure of tires. Most important (especially in a smart) is wind speed and direction; temperature/humidity/barometer can also affect wind resistance, I imagine. Comparison could only be valid using exactly the same route & direction (most trips involve a net change in altitude, and are thus 'uphill' or 'downhill'). Even controlling for all that, traffic can affect things - how often one must slow down, pass, or change lanes affects mileage.
I don't know how accurate your Scan Guage will be on a minute-by-minute basis. Hybrid & electric cars, however, often feature a battery capacity indicator which drops precipitously when you accelerate but only very slowly when you keep constant speed (and goes up as you decelerate if you have regenerative braking). This seems to prove that the accelerate function uses more energy than coasting.
Where did you hear of this method and the term 'plugging'? Was it from another person, or in some written or online source? If the latter, can you please provide the reference? Google hasn't turned up anything for me.
(On a purely non-scientific level, 'plugging' would seem quite annoying for the passenger and any drivers around you.)
Erich Jacoby-Hawkins
Barrie, ON
The views I express on this blog are purely my own and should not be construed to represent the official position of the Green Party of Canada - the same goes for all other people's posts & comments.
Erich Jacoby-Hawkins, Barrie ON - although I'm on Cabinet (Nat'l Rev. and Ecol. Fiscal Reform), views here are my own and may not reflect official GPC positions. Please visit www.ErichtheGreen.ca
Maybe I was dreaming
I am questioning my memory,but, I think I was watching a program called Daily Planet on Discovery Channel. I have not be able to find any other information myself. As for the scan gauge it reads directly off the cars computer system. The gauge comes highly recommended from other misers. I am hoping to prove my plugging theory.
Thank You for your insightful addition to this blog.
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Review anticipated
I eagerly anticipate a review of your experience with the guage - installation, operation, etc. I would very much like to have something more accurate than my fuel-tank needle and trip odometer combination. For one thing, now that I have switched to 100% biodiesel, I know my mileage is worse, but not by how much, nor can I separate it from the recent change in our driving patterns.
Erich Jacoby-Hawkins
Barrie, ON
The views I express on this blog are purely my own and should not be construed to represent the official position of the Green Party of Canada - the same goes for all other people's posts & comments.
Erich Jacoby-Hawkins, Barrie ON - although I'm on Cabinet (Nat'l Rev. and Ecol. Fiscal Reform), views here are my own and may not reflect official GPC positions. Please visit www.ErichtheGreen.ca
Review Coming
I will review all the entries to this blog and try to come up with a list of consumption tips.
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I just got Scan Gauge II
I just got my Scan Gauge II and it is hooked up. The next step will be to test different driving patterns to see which is the most effective.
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Plugging works!
My Scan gauge ll (SGll) is all setup. It takes five tank fill-ups to callibrate itself. I can say that this tool can save anyone fuel. With its constant results of your driving in real time. You now can see the result of putting the pedal to the metal, or plugging. Every car 1996 to 2005 has an OBD ll port and the SG ll plugs right in.
I can also tell you that plugging does work. If I can travel at 80 kph, I get my best results. So cruising at 80 kph is my optimum fuel consumption speed. It would not be very safe to drive the highways at 80. Any speed over 80 kph, I have found that I can regain the speed of up to 105 kph at the same fuel consumption as it take to maintain that speed. There are times in my drive, where plugging is not possible, but, where it is, I plug. This new form of driving is not even of notice to my fellow commuters. Over a long distance, driving between 95 and 105 kph you will average close to a 100 kph rate.
I drive a 2005 Smart and my last trip to and from work I averaged 2.8 lpk.(liters per hundred kilometers) I have not done the math calculation in some time, but I have been told that is equal 100 mpg. (miles per gallon)
Not every car will get the same results but with the help of SG ll or a similar reader with a trip calculator, you can improve your consumption too. I really hate to drive my automatic anymore than necessary for occupancy requirements. I am going to test my plugging theory on that car next. I have learned that I can top up my tank and recalibrate it. Stay tuned for the results on my auto.
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Impressive mileage
Gareth Davies
Nanaimo-Alberni EDA
Parksville, BC
John, I wouldn't exactly swear by my math, but I figure you have 119 m.p.g. Now, if someone can verify that, it's impressive!
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My math is 103 gmp.
Yes, great mileage, I agree. I will show my math that gives the reading 103 mpg.
100 km. = 60 miles
4.5 l. = 1 gallon
2.8 l. = .62 gallon
.62/60 = 1.033*100 = 103 m.p.g.
I would like to know if this is right. It has been a long time since I calculated mpg and never with a decimal. There are some great tips in this blog. I am sure there are more out there.
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Most impressive mileage
Gareth Davies
Nanaimo-Alberni EDA
Parksville, BC
John, 100 kilometres = 62.14 miles and 2.81 litres = 0.74 US gallons or 0.62 UK gallons.
Using the US gallon we get 62.14 ÷ 0.74 = 84 mpg
Using the UK gallon we get 62.14 ÷ 0.62 = 100.2 mpg
I guess we were both inaccurate (not wrong), but in any event, the rate of fuel consumption is impressive.
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Cheers
Thank you
I thought I was close thank you!
There is still room to improve my consumption, so post you tips here!
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100 driving tips
Well it has been a while since I’ve posted here, but was beat up pretty good in here.
I have been doing my homework so that when I say something I can back it up.
Plugging as mentioned above does work (aka. push & glide)
Here I will attach a link to 100 driving types to save fuel and let you compare your driving style.
http://ecomodder.com/forum/EM-hypermiling-driving-...
Check it out and please try it before you jump all over me again.
Thanks,
John Paul Appleman
CEO ADFW FGPA