Light green boxes in Vision
Supporting words from text of Vision Green:
“Without vision, the people perish.”
Good to have left out attribution as Biblical quote, for its being something of an extremist translation of MiShLeY (Proverbs 29:18) to suit a phonetic preference ("perish" must have been too hard to resist for the translator for similarity to [Yi-]PaRa', but really is way off the Hebrew).
“We are entering an era of consequences.”
This one I'll leave unattributed, for I've variously decried Greens' appeal to its sayer (see
http://www.greenparty.ca/en/node/2581#comment-1784
http://www.greenparty.ca/en/node/2581#comment-1795
http://www.greenparty.ca/en/node/2581#comment-1802
http://www.greenparty.ca/en/node/2581#comment-1799
http://www.greenparty.ca/en/node/2581#comment-1840
http://www.greenparty.ca/en/node/1873
and others).
“We must base ourselves in international law.
It is the rock you can stand on when things become confusing.”
Hard as it is for Canadians to accept, Heinbecker's rock is a very uncertain & crumbly one indeed. Simply juxtaposing the word, 'law', does have an appealing ring for Canadians, but it must not mislead into thinking that the philosophical & institutional ground it's on is nearly as solid as even the rock is doubtfully itself.
Daryl Vernon
York Centre
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KJV pretty standard, Churchill a great wordsmith
"Where there is no vision, the people perish" is Prov 29:18
in the King James, which is pretty standard in Canada (I prefer NIV myself, but I realize it too is flawed and I'm not a student of any of the primary languages or texts). So using this is not too extremist. KJV is typical for Anglican, and who might we know of that persuasion?
I actually would prefer if the quote had been attributed. Don't let Harper pretend he owns scripture.
I have no qualms about quoting Churchill. The audience is the general public, so we should draw upon those whose quotations are widely appreciated, rather than restrict ourself to the pure saints of greenity (whoever they might be). Truth is truth no matter who states it, and Churchill had a way with words, no denying it.
Of course, perhaps in this instance we are quoting Nobel Peace Laureate Albert Gore's quote of Churchill, so maybe that does the trick.
Erich Jacoby-Hawkins
Barrie, ON
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"Extremist" Biblicism & so re "truth"...!
I did not say that its use in the "light green box" was inappropriate, but best as unattributed, unless atttributed as KJV & not actual Bible. In fact it is a good quote for the maybe not inappropriate grimmer tenor of presentation of Vision Green. But, again, you must get the "cultural" point I make: sort of misuse of something one must attend to with great care, for which admonition I could attach the very same Proverb-ial phrase (mis-)translated. I of course get the appeal for some Canadians.
Even more of a problematic cultural piece is your Churchillian hero. It is downright dangerous to make warlike appeal to get out of our problems caused by warlike approach to livelihood. Our general public should not be pandered to for sales pitch. It can be sleazily ungreen (recall Kelly quote). "Saints of greenity" are hardly needed, there are many fathoms better than your First Lord of Admiralty who was seminal in ushering in the warlike age of oil. And there certainly is a way of "denying" any Churchillian "way with words" --- look into it a bit, for while he undoubtedly had his (usually misapplied) talents, that any eloquent wording was his own is often in doubt! He was also an example of something to be decried that arose to be overly pursued (esp. eventually via TV) in that violent 20th century, a certain gross crafting of image. Read from my comments linked above. You would do well to steer clear of putting "truth" close to Churchill's name!!
I won't get into Gore for now...