How We Vote
There have been numerous calls to vote strategically from non-partisan sources working to further the cause of the environment. The popular online petition source, Avaaz.ca, has raised funds to create anti-Harper ads in three ridings where Conservatives could be vulnerable. One of them is my riding in Central Nova. Now Avaaz is launching a more national effort. They have brought together popular Canadian artists to create the song, “You Have a Choice”. This is accompanied by an online pledge to vote to block Harper’s Conservatives. This kind of cross partisan, post-partisan method of campaigning is a symptom of an electoral system that doesn’t work.
Media sources continue to refer to Harper’s numbers as putting him close to “majority territory”, yet he consistently polls around 35%, not even close to the majority of Canadians. In the upcoming election, we are faced with the possibility of a false Harper majority: a majority of seats in the House with a minority of popular support. Of course, there are also strong arguments to be made against first-past-the-post from the Green Party stance. With 660 000 votes in the last election, the Greens did not elect a single MP. It is no wonder that Canadians are losing faith in our political process when the results are so blatantly antidemocratic, reflecting the views of a limited segment of society.
It has been said that no government will replace the system that put them in power. But Jack Layton says that his party favours proportional representation. I think he would be hard-pressed to turn down an opportunity to go after it. The Green Party of course advocates proportional representation. We even include it in our top priorities for the first year of our hypothetical government. While the Liberal Party has never warmed to the idea of replacing First-past-the-post, Stephane Dion said on national radio this month that he would be interested in trying Preferential Ballot elections. In this system, voters would be able to mark their choices in order on the ballot and second and third choices would be taken into account somehow in the vote tally. This system would give a more accurate result of voter intentions than first-past-the-post, as would many forms of Proportional Representation.
If the opposition parties can unite on a single issue to challenge the hypothetical Harper government, this may be it. While Liberals and NDP have petty partisan differences on most issues, including the steps necessary to combat climate change, cooperation and respectful dialogue could lead to a lot of progress. If a Conservative government is elected, I’d like to talk about what we can do to form a coalition. I’d like for the other party leaders to coalesce around some common principles. One of these would be healthy democracy. The first action a Green coalition could take would be to work toward electoral reform so Canadians will never again have to choose between voting with their mind and voting with their heart.
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Preferential Vote not a Proportional System
The electoral system which Dion has said he might consider, one which uses a preferential ballot, is the Alternative Vote system (also known as Instant Runoff Vote). It is not a proportional system. In fact, AV can produce worse outcomes than our present system, FPTP, does.
The problems are primarily that AV, like FPTP, is designed to be used with single-member ridings and is winner-take-all.
The following are taken from Fair Vote Canada's Fact Sheet on the Alternative Vote:
Let's not be fooled into thinking that something which sounds like it's a proportional system - because it uses a preferential ballot -, is a proportional system. AV is nothing of the sort.
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What if the voter didn't
What if the voter didn't have to put a ranking for more than one MP? This isn't just about what would get Greens seats, this about fairness and letting the people choose who they want to lead this country.
I AM LUCKY
I live in the downtown Toronto area, Ellen's ridding. Which is also in the Liberal Bob ray riding...but according to my research I can vote with my heart with no complications with my mind... I often think Ellen has a great chance of winning against Bob Ray, the polls say the GP has more support then the NDP so..
But I agree with Elizabeth this kind of voting does not work....we need proportional voting ..
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Can we focus on securing our best chances, PLEASE!
Great arguments all with convincing backup analysis too, as always, but I just would like to add that we are still in an election!!! Can we focus on WINNING at least the few seats that are our best chances and redress these more complex issues, which the general electorate is unlikely to vote for right now, after we've won the election?
Only my viewpoint of course- stay focused on winning (especially from the NDP because the Liberal surge is sure to swing more votes towards us)~ I'm going to the youth rally the Ottawa office has invited me to on Thursday here Montreal! Looking forward to seeing you there!
P.s. I would have loved to have seen Elizabeth meeting with the various Inuit communities, and even fielding candidates, in each of their respective regions. Is this not a crucial bridge for our party to begin building for the future?!
Wanna hear the song: here
http://www.box.net/shared/static/heqvkr3vf4.mp3 As for trading votes like they were pork belly futures, I'm not so sure that's the choice we really want!?
I agree, Bruce
The vote-trading is a well-intentioned response to an unresponsive political system. But the uncertainty of the effect is not for me worth the risk of somehow canceling myself out.
Preferential Ballot all that bad?
Chrystal, you seem to oppose the idea of an AV ballot because it's not a proportional system. But can't an AV ballot be used in conjunction with a system like MMP, just the way our current single choice ballot could? A ballot's first choice would be the only one counted for the popular vote.
The problem with just using a single-choice ballot in combination with MMP that I see is that vote splitting is still a problem. Of course, a vote that doesn't go towards electing a local representative can still contribute to those seats allocated based on the popular vote, so it's not as bad as our current FPP system, but it still leaves many ridings without real representation. I'd much rather my vote, if possible, contribute to electing someone local to represent my riding.
(edited to add the following paragraph)
I forgot to mention that, while AV seems like an interesting system, as implemented in Australia, for example, wouldn't it make more sense to consider aCondorcet-type voting method instead? I don't see why these types of systems aren't used in elections everywhere, but maybe I'm missing something.
Not the ballot so much as how votes counted
The problem with the Alternative Vote, the system which Dion mused about, is not the preferential ballot, but how the votes are counted.
As Dion described it himself, the system he's conceiving would be applied to our current single-member ridings. And there would still be only one winner per riding, determined on the basis of who received 50% + 1 (or more) of the total votes cast.
That means, up to 49% + 99 voters who chose differently didn't elect anyone - again.
When you start thinking through the possible scenarios you realize that AV or IRV is just another winner-take-all system. It's not a proportional system.
AV/IRV works fine for electing between two political parties or for candidates competing for a single position such as Governor. It doesn't work well for electing members to a representative parliament.
As for the preferential ballot, BC's version of STV uses it. I'm a fan of BC-STV, which the citizens of British Columbia will be voting on, in a referendum (again) in May 2009.
Four years ago, we voted 58% in favour of BC-STV. The Liberal government and the NDP Opposition imposed a 60% requirement for passage of that 2005 referendum. And they've done it again for the 2009 referendum.
The irony is so blatant my blood still boils when I think about it. A "majority" government, which attained that status on less than 40% of the votes and an Opposition party which formed the "majority" government before it, also on less than 40% of the votes, both imposing a 60% majority requirement on the voters who favour changing that system.
And they wonder why voters are cynical...
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Wishing and Hoping
Momentum is the key to success. The target is getting those who want to vote green to vote green. Voting is a time to tell the next government what you really feel today is important.
Wishing and hoping it was different is really OK, change comes from building up momentum in the direction you want to go and getting those who will change what you want into parliament to bring about the changes.
We have been successful this election cycle, Re: "momentum"
In my riding there's a lot of talk of strategic voting, some loonies are even prepared to vote-swap with their new Facebook friend, but many more in this election than last are going to vote Green. Everyone's been putting out that little bit of extra energy that after weeks is becoming more noticeable when you finally settle down late at night to watch some tv and, since you're a political junkie, it's politics for R & R. You hear one more anonymous apathetic non-voter muse about what's wrong with politics and it can all seem so up-hill. You're right Adrian, that word is so good to remember. Healing. Momentum: slow steady progress, inevitably we evolve as a culture, the stragglers kicking and screaming but Canada is a little Greener every day. We have already been successful in many more hearts and minds. And wasn't Adriane Carr terrific last night on tv, winning the cbc Xtreme debate by a long shot! (to counter the vote-dealers & nay-sayers). We have their hearts and minds. Now let's get every one of those good intentions to the voting booth Tuesday!
Deeper current of
Adriane Carr was so amazing in her presentation, so grounded, like Elizabeth, now I know why this election has made me a political junkie...
A little disappointed though in not seeing much sign of candidate activities within my riding though...